Future Church

Eastbourne railway station ...waiting for a train?

I ask that you take aside some time to consider the following paragraphs and discuss with those dearest to you in your walk. I would love to get feedback. Life is all about a journey we do need to travel!

Why must the Western Church study Culture today?

• Because of the incarnation. Jesus did it.

• Cultural understanding is essential as good mission practice

• Christendom and Modernity are in rapid decline

• The West is in the midst of a huge cultural shift

• The Church is in decline (numerically)

• Current church practices are cultural accommodations to a society that no longer exists

• Primary modes of communications in the Western world and culture have changed.

• New culture means new organizational structures are required.

• The “Boomers”( over 46.s) are the last generation happy with “modern Church”

• Increase appeal of Spirituality derived from other religions

• Many Christians no longer follow the religion of their parents 2^nd generation not coming through!

If this sounds new to you or you have n't considered this -no problem. However it would be worth us as a community considering the future “state of play” so that we can be effective where we are in the changing world. This with the Spirit of God, blessing the plans and activity could turn the community around and increase the Kingdom.

As suggested at a recent Church meeting perhaps we as a Church should be concentrating on a work with the people who have moved to this area from other countries?

The days of Sankey we know are over, but people, the days of Hillsong and other Modern large praise events are probably on the decline.

Some churches are doing a “new” old church, when maybe the answer is a “new” new church!

I sense with others that the new generation of believers are looking for reality in Christian practice, no religiousness, more reflectiveness, less clutter and a strong “missional” discipleship under the code name in America of “Spiritual Formation”. (“Google” Spiritual formation!)

It is not a simple matter of the Church re branding. The changes in culture have been too great for a change in “window display”. Recall in the past the printing press and the education of the community linked to the church. The corresponding requirement for an engaging church in the community that is not a sub-culture but is or changes the culture is clear. This has not to be a liberal or compromising stance but rather relevance, rediscovery, and in fact more biblically based mission. The “Hillsongs” mega churches might not survive even if they don't ever make an impact in Highland Scotland.
The church needs to be looking at ways to deal with those who want to be submerged in the culture and not seen to be different from others and to the individualists who make a stand on his or hers pet conviction. A tough task. Yet I think there are those being groomed by God for the job some closer than you think.

kierkegaard meets the emerging Church

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In Scotland and the rest of the UK there is a gap which was arisen during the past two generations, of no real involvement in the community (there are some exceptions) plus the change in culture. The culture change is one that needs address.

We have less and less social/nominal Christians going to church which clears the way for a genuine work of the spirit. People are less interested in turning out to be seen as a community figure head. Added to this we have a culture quite different from America. In The UK the post-modern era requires a different form of Evangelism!

For church to work in this new age its not simply a four laws lesson, a template, a plan. In fact internationally the emerging church is looking at how to be the community first rather then look at plans. 

The tee shirts in America that say “Don't go to church” and on the back say “be the church” says something very profound its not just going to meetings its giving over to God?

There is a danger here that meetings, agendas, time allocated work, compartmentalised the life. In turn this creates a church and non-church divide. This secular and non-secular arena. Again rather than a subculture that acknowledges the God spots in the week and all else is “worldly”,how about a culture that has input from practising Christians in the community. Elizabeth Fry's influence on community came from here community life driven by her personal faith.

How to gather the masses

I thought it interesting that when in America a couple of years ago a Church leader was advocating that the church takes to much energy trying to make the church attractive when in fact if there were obstacles for people to get to church it would be in the long term more fruitful.
The age of attractive church might be over. How do we change the culture if we are touching a church centred image when we should be flavouring the world.

Sometime you need to stand on your head to see a different point of view.

Kierkegaard meets the emerging church

It was only the other day that Soren A Kierkegaard embarged on a review of the emerging church.

He was reminded of his earlier thoughts in as much as the wider community around him was transforming in to a theatrical exsistance and stage sets.

He had concluded that society no longer consisted of individuals or groups devided in to social hierarchy. Its make up was of an undifferentiated mass, " the public". He had concluded that the mass "the public" was most dangerous and significant in power.

It , "The Public" would march as soon as someone said march! It would never ask the least of questions which could make it seen as the power more or less proportionate to its state of anonymity..

His observation of the mass and its "great levelling" had impact in the mass psychology of the age. It would also highlight the phenomenon of alienation. With the colapse of the social pyramid ( all have stations in the paramid higher or lower.) the levelling did not lead to equallity as such but to a rivary of one another as like in a game.

One outcome of this was that place were once there had been a fear of God was now a fear of man.

Kierkegaard said " close air always becomes noxious"

So Kierkegaard walks along the street to a cafe orders a Starbucks and reflects.
He gathers some around and tells the story.

A rare treasure that is the desire of everyone is located so far out on thin ice that whoever goes out to retrieve it places himself in mortal peril. But the hero who of course dares where others are scared rushes off, attended by the breathless crowd. The crowd would tremble for him and with him in the mortal peril of this decision; it would mourn him in his death:it would deify him if he gained the treasure.

But Keirkegaard repeated the scene to the listening group. This time the crowd less breathless and more a crowd of spiritless public that rationally calculates the extent to which such a feat of daring will pay off: “ They would go out there. They would stand where it is safe and sound, and putting on the airs of experts. They would evaluate the skillful skaters who could skate almost the the outermost edge... and then turn back.

Among the skaters there would be someone or other who was exceptionally talented: he would even manage the tour de force of going to the extreme edge, making yet an other attempt, replete with the deception appearance of danger, so that the spectators shout and I translate into Scottish ,

Dinne da that yur mad.... he's risking his life!.

But see he was remarkably skilled that in fact he was able to turn away at the extreme outermost edge, that is where the ice is still quite safe and the mortal peril has not yet begun.
Just as in the theatre the crowd would shout out “bravo” and salute him with acclaim; they would return home, bringing with them the great heroicness artist, and they would honour him with a sumptuous banquet. Reasonableness had come to predominate that it had transformed the challenge itself into an unreal stunt and reality into theatre.

While the passionate hero had been honoured because he alone ventured where none of the others dared go, the hero of reasonableness was celebrated because he understood how to simulate the seriousness of the danger – that is, how to “transform an inspired feat of daring into a stunt”. A twisted transformation of this sort is greeted with approval because, first of all, collective self-deception is easier to endure than envy of that single individual, and second, levelling has broken down the representative function formerly exercised by the hero in the days when he could “exalt the idea of what it is to be a human being”.

And the emerging church as it skates to the outerlimit not because it is there but to collect the rare treasure " the desire of everone" can continue to be passionate.

Then the establishment may not try and "level it out."

We so need feats of daring and not calculated stunts.

So I am left with the conclusion that Kierkgaard is most comfortable with the discourses happening around the globe as christian discover the Church is far more than a building or a group of likeminded people who are religious.

May the skating be spectacular.

Emerging but not from the water

You would expect emerging conversation to be filled with modern logos and symbols pointing to newness and post Christian thinking. But how do you relate this theology or way of life in the Scottish context or indeed in the Highlands and Islands.

Stuart Blyth on his barricade blog makes mention of some baptists meeeting to discuss the emerging scene.

He says

"Under the broad auspices of the Centre for the Study of Scottish Christian Spirituality we are going to be hosting a coffee-shop discussion on the Emerging thing in Scotland on the evening of Wednesday 25th April at 7.30pm at Starbucks in Borders, the Fort, Glasgow."

Hope the conversation is fruitful.

Future of your church

If you are wondering How to move forward as a church how about considering the following.:

Firstly I will not be advising whither you start a Mums or Toddlers group. I am thinking more about first steps in the process of gaining an insight in to the future work.

Need to Meet to find a "Corporate discernment"... moving forward inch by inch. Take time together to sift out ideas etc. Allow everyone their input. Have a facilitator as leader for the meeting. Also sometimes the quieter person has the answer or discernment.

Prayer and discussion on " How God, would you have us steer?"
This is realisation. and the need to go on or in other words you cannot go back...
Retreat a time of rest and reflection

An uncluttered time to reflect and breathe - away from it all - including the Sunday routine.
What does God want for us?
What might he be calling us to?

Often he wants you to stop something first. Is there activity continuing that has past is sell by date and is not producing...?

Show a high value in Missions home and away.

Community/City/region impact

Where is God currently working, look for opportunities something to get alongside?

Move from Doing....to... becoming
Rally to a cause seems easy. Rallying around God -more difficult.

How does one move forward?

Teach me to live my life the way he would if he were here. (physically)

Head off discouragement

Calm be the person you want to be!
When God reality is present and someone comes into the body.
Then God has brought them in.

Remember "Come follow me".
Too many in the full time ministry are in a "rat race".
The next step should be "a dance with the Trinity and others"

Living in love speeds the coming of Jesus.

1 Our Corporate lives as examples and patterns
2 our assumptions about ministry
3 Our ministry plan
4 Our life rhythms and ministry
rest periods
5 Our ministry results

Are the activities -one purpose?

Step back from the need to see immediate results.

Happy discerning in the way forward.

Church new or old...

I had a meeting with someone in Eastbourne last week regarding new churches.

Daniel is looking for leaders to encourage in new church activity. I am sure he will not mind the link as he needs to speak to lots of people.

My question to him was is this a "new style for an old church" or is it "new church" the conclusion was new church. So often we are loking to replicate with a modern feel the old systems of church. The emerging people have got it right - go back to first principles. Seek ye first the kingdom. Then how de we do that where we are in the community and how best will this be developed. It may result in a system or structure of leadership or activity but it needs to be born out of the "seek ye first" bit first.

We had a good conversation that crystalised some of my thinking as well as his.

He coped with the Robertson probe.

I am sure Daniel would be encouraged by your comments and e mails.

Strong enough to think?

If you are in a church that is rigid or controlling it may be a constraint to your personal expression. How do you vent your thoughts and concern. The house groups and indeed the House Group Movement sought to engage with one another in the comfort and less formal setting of home. There needs to be dialogue and in the appropriate place midweek business meeting etc. There is more than ever in the current churches a need to evaluate and seek the plan for the future. In 1970 if some one said the Boys Brigade will decline rapidly people would have laughed. Yet in the space a of a few years it did.

Now consider the church- ok more established, yet it, recognises the decline. What now?

Of course where there is dialogue there will be differing opinion!

This can be seen, by some as inconsistent with a rigid theology of black and white! Debate can only improve the understanding. This together with a more thoughtful process linked to solitude will surely provide a positive Christ centred practice rather than a regimental, all believe the same, untested theology of the “Victorian age”. Sure there will be mistakes but the distilling down will be a purifying process. Can you imagine Abraham trying to answer the question while he was in the desert ;
Where are you going? “Eh... Following God, he told me to follow this column of cloud... of smoke.” “and the end result?”...”eh the best land a promised land.” How will you know what its like? “ Sorry don't know... but when we get there we will know I simply have to trust in God to take me and lead the people to where ever that is.”
The conclusions from the discovery walk or the de-construction, I await rather than dismissing as out of hand. I am encouraged that the de-construction that many fear, from their so called established church, is questioning not purely for the sake of it but with a God fearing responsibility. While Emerging people will not simply set up Churches as we have known them, they will, seek to find a way of expressing the Kingdom in the community which has a more holistic approach.
So where in the say 70's and 80's indeed the 90's the church set up “alternative church” which took the flavour of a sub-culture we see the emerging people wanting to be the culture and shape the culture head on. (Like the Joshua story “tread the land” -possession). The difficulty comes from within the established church which is trying to keep doing what worked or did not work over the last 300 years. Status Quo (not the group) is seldom forward thinking. Where are the visionaries?

Great Omission

Just finished Dallas Willard's "The great... Omission".
It was refreshing and re encouraging that some of by thoughts back some years ago he concluded in some bits of his book. As a busy man who needed time to write a book I look forward to his next piece of print which will be written on allocated time so to speak.

I see why his thinking gels with emerging people. He thinks. Not many christians do!


Paul M Dubuc writes

Dallas Willard's latest book is a collection of previous writings and lectures surrounding the importance of discipleship for Christians. This book is a great introduction to Willard's other books and a stirring exposition of his chief concern: That becoming a disciple of Christ is seen as optional in most churches today. It is enough that a person accept Christ as saviour and affirm certain beliefs to be a Christian. While these things are absolutely essential, they are not enough and they only partially fulfill the teachings of scripture and the commands of Jesus.

When many people consider discipleship, or spiritual formation, they think of what it costs (a la Bonhoeffer). This is a valid perspective, but Willard asks us to take a look from the other side: The cost of nondiscipleship:

"Nondiscipleship costs abiding peace, a life penetrated throughout by love, faith
that sees everything in the light of God's overriding governance for good, hopefulness
that stands firm in the most discouraging circumstances, power to do what is right
and withstand the forces of evil. In short, nondiscipleship costs you exactly the
abundance of life Jesus said he came to bring (John 10:10)."

Discipleship is essential for every Christian, not just for the "super Christians." There is nothing in the teaching of scripture that suggests that being forgiven and "saved" is all there is to being a Christian. To the contrary, Willard shows that Christians need to be undergoing a profound transformation in character becoming more like Christ from the heart. How does this happen? By the faithful acceptance of everyday problems, interaction with God's Spirit in and around us and spiritual disciplines. He recommends four spiritual disciplines as basic to discipleship: solitude, silence, fasting and scripture memorization. For those to whom spiritual disciplines sound like "works righteousness," Willard repeatedly emphasizes the difference: "Grace is not opposed to effort, it is opposed to earning. Earning is an attitude. Effort is an action." The process of transformation isn't passive on our part. Its effectiveness is all due to God's grace. But our effort makes us receptive to this grace. God will not impose it upon us. Willard likens spiritual discipline to the physical discipline of an athlete (cp. 1 Cor. 9:24-27). The spiritual disciplines aren't meant to be burdens that we groan under. They are tools which we can help us make God's grace more effective in our lives. In fact, our bodies themselves are tools for spiritual growth.

The heart of the book is chapter 9, "Living in the Vision of God." Here Willard distinguishes between the substance of devotion to God and its effects. When we become too attached to the latter we are in danger of losing the former. Here there is a very good analysis of how this happens and what can be done about it. We are commanded to love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength in Mark 12:30 and Willard assures us that, "It is something we are to do, something we /can/ do. We /will/ learn learn how to do it if we /intend/ to do it. God will help us, and we will find a way." Amen! Let it be so.

The book ends with a few short chapters about various books on spiritual living that have been a tremendous help to Willard and which he commends for our use. I've added a few of them to my reading list.

Dallas WIllard is a very wise, and practical teacher. He has deep and valuable insight into what it means, and what it takes, to be a disciple of Jesus Christ today. He is a trustworthy guide for the efforts of any Christian who wants to break an addiction to mediocrity in their relationship to God. This book will never be the classic that _The Divine Conspiracy_ is bound to become, but it provides a a much needed impetus for modern evangelical Christianity to reclaim the great omission for its life and mission. I hope it gains a wide reading.

Kirkwall Churches get a shake up!

Andrew Jones (tallskinnykiwi) had a lot to handle at Stromness Church last Sunday.

Additional notes and comments as well as the video will help you to understand and perhaps how to deal with future disruptions in your church. End times coming.

Horst Schaffranek has a lot to answer for, another cult.!

People are knotted.....

This tree is near Golspie and it has an interesting root system. All knotted.

When I read blogs about the Church, Emergent, Emerging Church, baptists, theology, reformed, Charismatic etc I see knotted people.

Now I dont mean" get knotted!"( British derogatory remark)

I mean the roots of the past help to support. Be it twisted or not. Think...If you untwisted the roots of this tree...If you straightened them out if you made them tidy. The tree woiuld fall down its perched on the bank. The root system helps to give the stability.

People need to know you are what you ARE (present tense) - roots of your life digging deep and supporting you. So stand good with the roots you have and reach to the sky heavenward!
Its about "being".

The now is about growing upward to the heavenly place. What are you doing to accomodate the growth? Do not ignore the past it supports you but in the now, live for God and the future will be nurished.

Emergent church Renovare...

I see the latest perspective from Renovare is available.

Little Ferry beach near Golspie.

The Forward Agenda for a Christian in the post-modern world

There is much written today about a new way of being a Christian in the post-modern era. If modernism has been bad for Christianity why are so many looking forward instead of back? Medieval monastics, Celtic missionaries, and reformers are all from a pre-modern world. We can learn a lot from all quarters of the historic church (although liberals would say watch you do not become too conservative and conservatives would probably say watch you do not become too liberal). As we step into the future do we always need to look back? We can reach back, look and listen, but we can then, in an escapism way look to an imaginary golden age – is this unfaithful to Christ (........ with you until the ends of the earth)?
Our world needs pointers/missionaries for those people of the modern world who are entering the post-modern era. Those pointers will need to be rooted and strong – more powerful than the modern or post-modern culture. They will need to be as passionate as those of the past, be it Eastern Orthodox, pre-Protestant, post Reformation, Liberal, Conservative or Pentecostal – a person who encapsulates all of Christ without loss to any of His theology! (It's more than being ecumenical). Can that person seek to have and use the combined best of the six traditions of the Christian faith, Contemplative, Holiness, Charismatic, Social Justice, Evangelical and Incarnational, without others looking for labels, and deal with the scepticism from within the current church make-up!?

Of course some will see it as pig-headed, eccentric, unbridled, even cavaliering but I suppose many can be misunderstood and have been, including Jesus. All the more reason that the pointer needs to be rooted in Christ. I await with expectancy for some to push their heads above the crowd and point to Jesus Christ and communicate Him to a culture – post-modern. Many are considering it!

rediscovery?...the emerging thing in Church

In Dallas Willard's book "The Divine Conspiracy" he notices that on examination of local gatherings of Christian believers .... it seems a general law of social and historical development, that institutions tend to distort and destroy the central function that brought it into existence.

Clyde Reid, in his law of religious evasion, states "we structure our churches and maintain them, so as to shield us from God, and to protect us from genuine religious experience".

Adult members of Churches today, rarely raise serious religious questions for fear of revealing their doubts, or being thought of as strange. There is a conspiracy of silence on religious matters in the Church. This conspiracy covers up the fact that Churches do not change lives or influence conduct to any appreciable degree. It was the case, in the 18th and 19th century and still is the case in the 20th and 21st.





The 17th century James Morison, on his way to preach at Cabrach, read Charles Finney's "Revivals of Religion". Moved by what he read, he put to one side his sermon notes prepared and preached from the heart. As we look to the Church in Scotland, it is dogged with separations, why so many? Is it really due to a particular doctrine or theology or is it something else? We, after some separations from the Church, because of State Intervention or of Church government or of the use of Communion or Church practise, may be of no real consequence.
I am convinced that the difficulties of the Church in Scotland, no matter what denomination is one of trust. If the Church is to revive the nation, it needs to be prayerful – yes, it needs to be:
encompassing
it needs to be alive
it needs to be accommodating

This means that it cannot afford to have Victorian methods, or indeed Victorian double values.




Those who rediscovered truth were people who were back searching in the Word of God and praying. They were not reviewing Confessions of Faith, or Constitutions, or Covenants. It is a recurring observation that when there is a moving of God's Spirit in His people, they are moved back to reading the Word of God and not a secondary document, Creed or Catechism.

Modern approach to Church

In an age after the post-modern era the structure and communication of the Church to the unchurch, to be effective, requires a total re-think. This is particularly hard for the Highland Presbyterian churches who work from a dated template that in some quarters has lost its relevance. Activities to the unchurch that worked say even 20 years ago will not work these days. While the message must stay the same, and there was a danger in the 1970's that the method change messed up the message (not a problem now) the presentation must be appropriate to the audience and age. In a culture of switches, electronic media, i pods and downloads, there is a clear need for a professional presentation to the masses that engages them before they even enter a church building.
When the large PLC market a new brand or product hours and hours of getting there message across and the need for the product goes before the product launch. The hype for X-box 360 started before a box had been created.
I would suggest that today the norm should be power point presentations to support the preaching and words for all praise on visual screens.

Engaging an alive Christian community

I am encouraged by the conversions, e mails and telephone calls regarding the need for an "alternative worship" for the Highlands.

Already Hi- land P-raise is having an impact on the people of the Highlands.

"Alternative praise" is a better phrase, actually, as worship you do all the time (or don't) praise is the focal point accompanied or not, corporate or not.


I want to see regular praise in a community no matter the size of that community. I also think I want to start collecting names of those interested in supporting and taking part. One does not need to be a musician for that!


If you have n't spoken to be in the last week and you are interested and you live between ....anywhere North of Inverness be in touch.

Thank you
b

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2 Is the Scottish Baptist principle of consensus in the business meeting a drop out for poor leadership?



Emergent church

The emergent and associated church

No this is not a new church it relates to previous blog messages, which need to be broken down.

Emergent church

This blog I think splits in to Three question for further discussion.

1- What has the "emerging Church got for Highland Scotland." (bearing in mind definitions might vary. )

and ....

Emergent stuff

"under the Mound so to speak..."

Man made meets creation with out a medium.

All this emergent stuff is good for the old brain. Now then did you know that the old Struie Road that joins the A9 at Alness used to emerge at the castle, top of Tullich Street Dingwall.

Emergent or not what are the signs of a passionate church?


And In the Book the Passionate Church There is a comment about " poles" (see previously).


Extroverts and introvert?

But the poles are not this but Pioneers and Settlers.


Pioneers - apostles, prophets and evangelists

Settlers - pastors and teachers

Who relates to this then ?